quawk
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Post by quawk on Jan 10, 2022 10:07:17 GMT -5
Was wondering if others could tell me if most REs are keyed with the same or different ignition and seat latch lock cylinders. My A model uses different keys and cylinders at the ignition and seat latch, but my M model is keyed the same for both locations. Was this changed between the two years?
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Post by timpa136 on Jan 10, 2022 11:02:45 GMT -5
Most M models were keyed identical. One early magazine road test commented on a different key for the seat but I suspect it was a mixup of factory bikes. One example of a different M key is if the seat latch fell off and a replacement had to be found. I know.
The A models had a new Ignition switch and fancy key and usually was different than the seat key as a result. Hope this helps.
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Post by HGH 770N on Jan 13, 2022 0:38:33 GMT -5
If “M”s were shop converted to “A” models the key switch was part of the change and was a different key number.
I have converted back to “ keys alike “ by dismantling the switch and filing the barrel leaves to match the other locks.
The key number can be removed from the barrel head as its only a thin removable stainless cover that can be hammered and polished. Iff you had some small number stamps you could re stamp it with correct number.
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Post by wayne on Jan 13, 2022 1:01:20 GMT -5
I have converted back to “ keys alike “ by dismantling the switch and filing the barrel leaves to match the other locks. The key number can be removed from the barrel head as its only a thin removable stainless cover that can be hammered and polished. Iff you had some small number stamps you could re stamp it with correct number. That is attention to detail Roger. Impressive and admirable. |
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Post by pmcburney on Feb 6, 2022 16:42:51 GMT -5
I've not tried it myself, but given the relatively small number of combinations I wonder if the lock cylinders can just be 'rearranged' to suit the different keys?
The individual wafers in the cylinders would be the same for each different key notch, and they can be removed, rearranged and replaced without too much drama.
IOW, it should be possible to just take a lock apart, arrange the wafers to suit whatever key you're using and Bob's your Mother's Brother?
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Post by cp9800 on Feb 15, 2022 23:44:07 GMT -5
There are actually 396 different combinations for the three digit key codes. However, if you can get the lock apart, it is possible to move around the different wafers and produce a lock that will work with a different key. Even if that is unsuccessful, you can remove all the wafers and then any key will operate the switch. Obviously this would be a bad choice for an ignition switch, but if all you wanted was to make your seat or gas cap lock the same as your ignition, what's the harm?
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Post by pmcburney on Feb 17, 2022 18:07:37 GMT -5
There are actually 396 different combinations for the three digit key codes. However, if you can get the lock apart, it is possible to move around the different wafers and produce a lock that will work with a different key. Even if that is unsuccessful, you can remove all the wafers and then any key will operate the switch. Obviously this would be a bad choice for an ignition switch, but if all you wanted was to make your seat or gas cap lock the same as your ignition, what's the harm? The gas cap lock can be opened with any key - it doesn't have wafers. |
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