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Post by HGH 770N on Aug 17, 2016 5:04:00 GMT -5
Thanks Glenn , I will send some parts for trials . Regard Rog
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Post by nairb on Aug 18, 2016 18:27:35 GMT -5
Well the rear light is back from the ceramic coaters. Its not been a huge success. They think there was some out gassing of the metal during the heating (160 c) process. There are a number of small bubbles/pitting on the surface. A bit like applying varnish to wood & getting those small bubbles. At least they did not charge for the effort. I did not have the instrument holder done. At least it will do for now. Maybe its time to contact www.colonnademetal.com
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Post by jm0406 on Aug 18, 2016 20:27:18 GMT -5
The ceramic used at the local wheel shop is room temp air dry. Cerakote MC-160. Look at clearcoating.com Jeff
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Post by HGH 770N on Aug 19, 2016 4:45:39 GMT -5
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Post by raychappo on Aug 19, 2016 6:45:40 GMT -5
Well the rear light is back from the ceramic coaters. Its not been a huge success. They think there was some out gassing of the metal during the heating (160 c) process. There are a number of small bubbles/pitting on the surface. A bit like applying varnish to wood & getting those small bubbles. At least they did not charge for the effort. I did not have the instrument holder done. At least it will do for now. Maybe its time to contact www.colonnademetal.com My instrument console was in a state and I ended up cleaning, filling and spraying it silver. It doesn't look too bad.
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Post by Glenn RE5 on Aug 28, 2016 4:18:16 GMT -5
www.colonnademetal.com/ Ive sent a back light for a price and advise on best finish on offer to match the original colour .. maybe the satin brushed chrome will be best ...
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Post by tpcastellano on Sept 1, 2016 10:23:21 GMT -5
Hi all,
I just purchased an M model parts bike that I intend to use as a donor for my A model. I will swap over the headlight housing, taillight instruments etc.
They are all corroded and need refinishing. I started with the taillight which it turns out is just bare aluminum. After some experimenting with beadblasting and sandpaper I was able to get a nice brushed aluminum finish.
Yesterday I removed and disassembled the instrument pod and (surprise!) it appears to have a hard metal coating. Perhaps chrome, but with a brushed finish.
So, my sandpaper method won't work directly until I remove the chrome.
I was surprised that they had different finishes. The turn signals are also just brushed aluminum but also corroded.
I have also considered vinyl wrap (available in brushed aluminum finish) and powder coating (also available in brushed aluminum finish).
Not having an original pristine bike to compare to makes it difficult to decide what will reproduce the original look. Of course cost matters too.
I am reluctant to go the plating route because I have had alloy parts destroyed previously and these can't be replaced easily.
Any ideas or suggestions? I know Jess has an answer but I depend on him for other advice so hope someone on the forum will have tried one of these approaches.
Tim
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Post by wayne on Sept 1, 2016 18:58:01 GMT -5
I have NOS tail light housings and NOS instrument pods. From what I can see. They are finished in the same way.
I have seen examples where owners have removed the original flaking brushed finish and polished the casings. It's possible to get a very high lustre, just like polished engine casings. They look very good, but of course nothing like the original.
I've also seen examples where they've been cleaned up and painted. They look vaguely original from a distance. I guess it boils down to what you're doing ? Do you want a restoration (which by definition is trying to replicate original) or do you just want the bike to look nice ?
The brushed alloy turn signals are from earlier M models. Later they chromed them. The chrome doesn't always last well on that quality of metal and even today I've had chrome platers refuse to work with and/or guarantee finishes on the "pot" metal.
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Post by tpcastellano on Sept 2, 2016 10:23:14 GMT -5
Hi Wayne,
That is helpful, I'll bet that is what happened to mine. My goal is to make it as close to original as possible without spending too much!
I might experiment with Vinyl and powder coating.
Thanks!
Tim
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Post by tpcastellano on Sept 2, 2016 10:57:45 GMT -5
It just hit me, what about the disk shaped pieces on the instrument cluster that the reflectors attach to? Are they plated as well? Mine are not.
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Post by timpa136 on Sept 2, 2016 12:32:32 GMT -5
It just hit me, what about the disk shaped pieces on the instrument cluster that the reflectors attach to? Are they plated as well? Mine are not. They appear similar in texture and tint etc. Others may help.
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Post by wayne on Sept 4, 2016 2:46:50 GMT -5
The end plates are anodised. I've taken an NOS one to an anodizer as a reference and they replicated it perfectly on a pair I was restoring. Can't recall the price but it wasn't expensive.
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nairb
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Post by nairb on Sept 5, 2016 20:36:05 GMT -5
I had the end plates on the instrument cluster anodised as well. They turned out ok.
The trouble I have found over the years is that a plater or chromer will say "yes mate we can do it" - only to find months later that the plater cannot do satin chrome on the instrument cluster or the ceramic coaters found a problem with the gloss coating. And sometimes they want paying for their efforts. Another issue is that I try to stay local so the bits dont get lost in the post. Its all part of the restoration game I guess.
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Post by Glenn RE5 on Oct 29, 2016 9:03:59 GMT -5
Have my back light back after having a brushed satin chrome finish put on ....Looks and feels good...Would be good for a show bike ...Not cheap at £70 inc vat and p&p but would be cheaper in bulk ..Will put some pics on but might not look that different to a polished one on a photo ...
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Post by Glenn RE5 on Nov 6, 2016 2:14:52 GMT -5
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