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Post by wayne on Jul 14, 2020 1:25:04 GMT -5
Member HGH 770N (Roger of the superb restorations recently seen on this board) has had quite a few RE5's come through his shed. And all this time on the board, you'd think we'd have seen it all. Roger sent me these pics. The second shot is from a bike he's currently working on: The air inlet grills. We're all familiar with these: Then how about these? Can anyone shed light on these? Early production, pre production? Maybe a very late production cost saving?
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Post by hudson on Jul 14, 2020 9:23:05 GMT -5
Roger did they have the black grills over them ? Certainly a smaller opening and the black grill with the large hole would add air flow. So just for fun I will guess they are very early and the grill was added to hide the new larger hole. Making it another cost adder, but just a guess. Frame number ?
Brian
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Post by timpa136 on Jul 14, 2020 11:15:38 GMT -5
Roger, You might shake those pipes and if they rattle look in them with a scope for that flapper valve, too. Tim
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Post by HGH 770N on Jul 14, 2020 11:46:41 GMT -5
The pipes had early “larger” baffles. I can’t verify the Vin number but I understand they were taking off a bike 10095 . That was sold without pipes/seat/tank ect. Yes the pipes do rattle especially one . I was concerned if the send them for chroming or cut them open 1st . I will look inside.
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Post by Jess on Jul 14, 2020 14:34:34 GMT -5
Sam once told me that many parts were outsourced and not made in house by Suzuki.
Example: there are at least 5 iterations of the M turn signal.
Folks seem to think that the factory was concerned about uniformity. Frankly, it is my understanding from my many conversations with Sam that they were just doing everything they could to get completed product out.
Logistics, was in its infancy compared to today. They were just happy to have parts on the shelf to keep the line moving. This project was a massive capitol investment for Suzuki and almost bankrupted the corporation.
It is my opinion that those are a pre-production set. Just my 2 cents YMMV.
Best,
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Post by wayne on Jul 15, 2020 19:25:23 GMT -5
I've just heard back from the owner of 10087. It's got standard grills. Maybe a few of those oddballs slipped through into proddy bikes.
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Post by Jess on Jul 15, 2020 23:59:15 GMT -5
Wayne,
My earliest is 10056. It has standard production grills as well.
Some of the wired stuff seems to have slipped out as spares... Not quite sure how... but this is the best I can figure.
Just my two cents...
Best
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Post by timpa136 on Jul 16, 2020 9:24:31 GMT -5
I remembered another inlet appearance and I REwatched part one on the utubes of the Suzuki trailer and one frame seems to show
no grill, but welded slots on the pipe . Maybe just balancing art work with functionality in production?
Tim
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Post by HGH 770N on Jul 16, 2020 11:47:53 GMT -5
Thanks for input Guys. I am now at a dilemma iff to put them on the next build or add them to my “Bitsa” bike . I will let you know whats inside the pipes when they come back from chromers.
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Post by wayne on Jul 16, 2020 22:32:46 GMT -5
The following are screen shots from two videos: This is from the general release Suzuki RE5 promotional video and is the silver bike (look at that welding): This is from the dealer video where Ed Mitchell is riding more "proddy" looking bikes. They almost look like blanking plates:
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Post by timpa136 on Jul 17, 2020 11:32:03 GMT -5
I think it is the poor fuzzy transfer from the worn out super 8 mm film cartridge. I saw an exhaust with a blanking plate and the chrome soon
turned blue all over, not recommended.
Tim
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Post by wayne on Jul 18, 2020 2:44:35 GMT -5
I saw an exhaust with a blanking plate and the chrome soon turned blue all over, not recommended. Tim Why on earth did someone do that? Factory experiment or just an owner?
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Post by wayne on Jul 18, 2020 5:48:50 GMT -5
Yes the pipes do rattle especially one . Roger, I had one pipe that rattled and that really puzzled me until I sectioned one. Inside I found the stainless inner has a relatively loose push fit of one pipe into another just before the outer pipe starts to expand. The things that space the inner pipe from the outer are just those small tubes roughly welded around the inner pipe at a few points down the length. If the spacers are not a perfect fit between inner and outer pipe and given the loose push fit between the two sections of the inner pipe, that'll be your rattle. Given the construction, I now know not to worry if some of my pipes can be rattled. Unlikely to be anything actually broken.
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Post by timpa136 on Jul 18, 2020 12:09:11 GMT -5
I saw an exhaust with a blanking plate and the chrome soon turned blue all over, not recommended. Tim Why on earth did someone do that? Factory experiment or just an owner? Was not the Factory. I do not recall the place, possibly on a poker run ride as I do not recall the owner. Tim
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Post by HGH 770N on Jul 19, 2020 9:24:24 GMT -5
Thanks for input and section photo. I have removed home made crude blanking plate from a pipe in the past. The pipe was blowing back through the vent and previous owner just blanked it off. Maybe if extensions fitted without original baffles gases may blow back when stationary? I say this because i have bought pipes without baffles and extensions fitted with there baffles.
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